• Dot Dot Dot

    Dress Code  

    Photographed in New York, NY

    Noteworthy: beefroll penny loafer, gold collar pin, polka dot silk tie, no break in chino.

    Oct 11, 2011 | Permalink (29) Total Comments

    SoloD left a comment on 10/31/2011 at 12:13 PM:

    I have been looking for good pair of khaki’s for a while. Where did you get yours from?


    Patrick Humphreys left a comment on 10/21/2011 at 6:30 PM:

    Fit on the chinos is millimetre-perfect. Too-long sleeves on the jacket, though? Also, is that a suit jacket masquerading as a sport coat?


    KRF left a comment on 10/17/2011 at 9:30 PM:

    Where are the loafers from?


    JN left a comment on 10/16/2011 at 1:08 AM:

    @CRE The fit of your chinos really is amazing (as is the whole look). I’m new to tailoring and am curious as to what you mean by severe, have you just had the pant hemmed or had more done to it than that?  I would love my all chinos to have the same slim fit, and be without the break.


    Preplee left a comment on 10/14/2011 at 9:53 PM:

    FEC Great spread. We should collaborate? I just moved to NYC… Working with a start-up company with a number of other gentleman.

    J. P. Lee

    http://preplee.com
    preplee43@gmail.com


    F.E. Castleberry left a comment on 10/13/2011 at 12:20 PM:

    @NWB—Until I see more men approaching what they wear with more thought, I will continue to make looks like this noteworthy.  Pay special attention to the fit as well…few men are wearing their classic clothes closer to the body today yet many men would stand to benefit from that very thing.


    NWB left a comment on 10/13/2011 at 10:00 AM:

    Great post FEC.  Though I’m having a hard time finding anything this gent is wearing noteworthy.  The navy jacket and chino combo has been adopted by men of every generation since the 1950’s.  It’s a no brainer and can be found any sunday in your local church and probably with that tie as well.

    @CRE-Your post explaining your style doesn’t seem to match the photo above.  If style really is a representation of ones personality I’m interested in knowing what part of this look represents you.  This for me lacks any real intrigue and in all crosses over the fine line of being too classic.


    Alescia left a comment on 10/12/2011 at 9:35 PM:

    I love the total look especially the polka dot tie and the added detail of the hanky in the pocket adds an extra touch of pazazz!


    cam left a comment on 10/12/2011 at 9:44 AM:

    dude looks good…period


    CRE left a comment on 10/12/2011 at 9:04 AM:

    First and foremost I’d like to state that I am the gentleman in the photo and appreciate all of comments and criticism.

    However, a sock or no sock debate is pointless… As FEC stated, style is all about your personal point of view.

    When I get dressed in the morning, I don’t think about what society would deem appropriate or to impress anyone.

    I’m not a suit… I don’t work for anyone. So, I don’t have those constraints on me when making decisions on what to wear in the morning, and if I did work in that arena, I’d bring something new to the table.

    Not to say that going sockless is an example of this, but fashion is about exploring new areas and pushing boundaries, finding what you like and displaying it to the world. What you wear is a statement and direct reflection of the person you are to the world and let’s everyone know where you stand without saying a word.

    Socks or no socks… I made a statement here… One strong enough to spark a debate. If we can all agree on one thing I’m sure its that.

    @Mike - The chinos are J.Crew Bowery Pants. They’ve been tailored severely though.

    Once again, thanks for all of the comments.

    -CRE


    (c)left left a comment on 10/12/2011 at 8:33 AM:

    @BKH^+1, @AEV^-1 Is this gent, perhaps enjoying a weekend at touring the towns museums or enjoying some other visual confectionery the great city of NY has to offer? A tie needn’t be a requirement for one to wear, as we’re all aware.


    BKH left a comment on 10/12/2011 at 1:24 AM:

    AEV - I believe that we all understand your view, you make it known on each post if someone is not wearing socks.

    However, how can you make these assumptions. Without having any knowledge of when the photo was taken, who it is of, where he works, where it was taken, etc.

    The thing about style is that it is one’s own way of expressing themselves through their wardrobe choice. I dress for myself each day, not to impress others or fit into what society considers to be appropriate.


    Tito left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 9:13 PM:

    There goes the SOCKS!
    Hey sir you look sharp men. that’s why I love New York city, you always find stylish people specially in Soho.


    MGM left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 8:34 PM:

    The always perceptive AEV again repeats his very practical criticism: that dressing like this just doesn’t cut it in the real world.  He may be right.  But what is so wrong with really embracing personal style (even at the risk of deviating conspicuously from established norms and conduct)?  Andy Warhol once commented that getting dressed everyday was a “project.”  Indeed, I treat my style choices as “dress-up” sessions.  Just how colorful and and interesting can I get?

    Now, in my own experience, I have been emboldened in this approach by the fact that most people I encounter in the real/business world have no clue about professional dress.  Therefore, my style choice, while obviously bold and loud, is also just as obviously creative and informed.  For example, most people I see have very baggy suits, very thin and baggy button up shirts, ugly 5-inch ties, and pants that are wearing away at the heel of the shoes.  These people would never dare question my style choices, because it is obvious I know so much about style while they do not.  Now running into people like you, who, I imagine, tastefully and consistently observe “standard and professional” rules of dress, but this, generally, is not the case.


    Alexander left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 8:33 PM:

    I’m on the “sometimes” bandwagon for socks.


    Phyllis left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 8:26 PM:

    I like the total look


    emjkmj left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 7:49 PM:

    Nice pic…  This guy looks like he has a nice bounce to his step (yes he is going down stairs).  There is a certain confidence derived from dressing well.. it’s called swagger.


    Grace left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 7:17 PM:

    I really like this look. The cut of the chinos is exquisite, and I’ve always been fond of that shape of glasses frame.


    Mike left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 6:34 PM:

    Who makes these chinos?


    JAS left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 4:19 PM:

    @AEV - I too appreciate your point of view, and I understand it. Again, what I (try to) do is not for everyone, and not for every field/profession. More than anything, I appreciate a logical, level-headed and mature discussion/disagreement. Thanks for keeping me on my toes!

    Back to the picture at hand: Great shot, and while not for everybody (which can be a compliment in my book), I dig the look from the ankles up!


    AEV left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 3:46 PM:

    @JAS - I appreciate what you’re saying. But, I have trouble with the ‘style is personal’ platitude. Yes, to some extent of course it is. But saying as much seems to suggest that all style choices, any style preferences, and, essentially, wearing whatever you want when/whereever you want, is always ok and acceptable.

    In practice, it just doesn’t work that way. We all live within a society of other people and institutions, with their own perceptions, rules, impressions, and expectations. So, in some ways ‘style is personal’ and in many more tangible ways style is steered and dictated by many other factors - who we interact with, where we live, the rules and customs of the places we frequent, where we work, who our boss(es) are, what season it is/what temperature it is, and so on.

    So, for me, when I see someone, in a large city, after Labor Day, in a jacket and tie - but not wearing socks - my reaction is, “that doesn’t work - it looks terribly out of place, inconsistent, and unprofessional.” I agree that there are a relatively small number of (mostly fashion/retail related) professions where a tie/jacket doesn’t signal formality/professionalism. But, in the vast majority of situations/professions, esp. after Labor Day, where a jacket and tie are required/appropriate, socks are too. If you don’t agree, fine - but I would caution you that many people feel the same way I do and they may not “get” or appreciate the impressions your ‘personal’ style is giving off.


    JAS left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 3:32 PM:

    AEV, I certainly understand your hesitation at the no sock look, as I had a similar concern when starting the professional program I am now in. However, as FEC has said (many times), style is personal, and an extension of personality. I have worn a tie every day since I started the program in early August, but put on socks for the first time just after Labor Day.

    That being said, this has a lot to do with (again) my personality and my goals. If I were going into a large professional accounting firm, I would think socks would be appropriate. My professional goals are to build, market and use my brand, that is, my skills, knowledge and perhaps most importantly my personality.


    K.C. Gleaton left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 1:20 PM:

    I think it looks GREAT!

    Then again, I may be biased…


    BKH left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 12:05 PM:

    FEC - Great shot

    AEV - just because one wears a blazer and tie, it does not mean that one works in a professional environment.


    AEV left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 11:39 AM:

    Fred,

    Are there any settings/environments that you feel ‘no socks’ would be inapproriate? Would you advise/endore ‘no socks’ for a professional business meeting (i.e. one requiring a tie/jacket? Job interview? Formal dinner out? Client meeting? Church? Court proceedings? Business trade show? A meeting with one’s member of Congress? For me, it’s less about it being 80 degrees (if that’s true, and this guy’s dressing for the temperature, than he doesn’t need his blazer…), and more about dressing appropriately for one’s environment and consistently from head to toe.

    It’s one thing for you, personally, as a blogger and style photographer to ‘endorse’/wear no socks in late September - it’s a while other thing to suggest the look is always appropriate, in all settings and scenarios. That’s all I’m getting at…and I know few ‘style experts’ who would disagree….

    I’m interested in your expanded perspective on this….


    F.E. Castleberry left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 11:29 AM:

    @AEV—I shot this at the end of September…even up until last week NYC was in the 80s. He’s fine without socks. Style is largely personal—a point of view. Unabashedly Prep is simply mine and you know I endorse a bare ankle well into fall.


    Blair left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 11:14 AM:

    Oh no AEV, I adore a sockless gent. I think if anything it displays a confident panache of respectful swagger. What did FE call it in one blog… the ‘go to hell ankle’ ?


    AEV left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 11:04 AM:

    Solid look for sure - and an interesting pic. That said, if your business requires a tie and jacket, it also requires socks….especially in October.


    RCN left a comment on 10/11/2011 at 8:36 AM:

    Impeccable… very sharp. I have the exact same penny loafers and I’m inspired by this gentleman to pair them up with a similar ensemble.


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