• (Back) Pocket Square

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    Photographed in Palm Beach, FL

    Noteworthy: Wayfarers, needlepoint belt, little to no break in chinos, monogram placement at bottom of ribcage, pocket square in back pocket.

    Mar 29, 2011 | Permalink (29) Total Comments

    Meaghan H. left a comment on 4/3/2011 at 11:10 PM:

    Absolutely love this look.  Classically clean-cut and preppy.  Love the ribcage monogram, I’ve never seen it before but love it.


    Julio B. left a comment on 4/1/2011 at 10:12 AM:

    OldGeorgetowner,

    According to Alan Flusser, a style icon for dressing the man. The monogram idea came from gentlemen sending their shirts to the laundry cleaners and making sure shirts wouldn’t get lost or swapped.  Later around the 50’s it became a stamp for the Riviera Club men for example. The monogram basically became a slight small and simple indication for the refined man and showed personality. Now the way this Gent has his is perfect. The monogram is small and lowered below his breast pocket as almost unnoticed…PERFECT!


    OldGeorgetowner left a comment on 4/1/2011 at 12:45 AM:

    In my family, my father always said the monogram started back at school so that when shirts were sent out for cleaning they came back to the right boy. My mother said they were just “whimsical” and then she asked “why do ask suck silly questions, monograms just are”.
    The model looks great, really great.


    Julio B. left a comment on 3/31/2011 at 3:51 PM:

    Great shot! What I really love about this pic is that every piece this gent is wearing is perfectly tailored, that’s why the pic looks so flawless. Like many Style gurus say ‘’ Honor thy Tailor’’  I’m from Miami ‘‘Grove’’ area and its impossible to find a good tailor in Florida!!! :/


    Tad Allagash left a comment on 3/30/2011 at 12:36 PM:

    Also - one of the things that makes this photo nice is how the yellow of the pants and the awning play off each other.  That, and this appears to be a genuine street style shot.


    chris W. left a comment on 3/30/2011 at 12:11 PM:

    @ Fred; Extend your holiday? ;) Ha. Thanks for the reply.


    F.E. Castleberry left a comment on 3/30/2011 at 10:43 AM:

    @Tad Allagash—With the monogram drawing enough attention to itself (when visible) as it is, my preference is plain block lettering in order to play it down.  Diamond is an option I like as well.


    Tad Allagash left a comment on 3/30/2011 at 10:04 AM:

    Huge fan of the rib monogram. Monogram on the cuff is beyond tacky, though sadly common.  Is there a preference here for block lettering, fishtail or diamond?


    robdarko left a comment on 3/30/2011 at 9:53 AM:

    F.E.C., your active participation, on this post, with your guests has been wonderful read. 

    Back Pocket Square is the standard.  Is the shirt BB OCBD?  I ask because the collar roll is perfect.


    F.E. Castleberry left a comment on 3/30/2011 at 12:45 AM:

    @Chris W.—Almost everyone I photograph are at the very least acquaintances while some are friends.  The people of Palm Beach you have seen this week thus far are the exception.  In the cases I did meet them, I only did so for a couple minutes.  Palm Beach is one of those towns I could literally spend an entire day in and shoot street style all day…there is that much inspiring material there.


    chris W. left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 9:18 PM:

    Hi Fred, hope you don’t mind me asking but do you personally know each person you photograph, or do you ever stop people at random and ask to take their photograph? Just curious. I mean, I see some faces resurface, but I don’t believe I’ve seen this gent before.


    Joey Dee left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 4:35 PM:

    @ FEC & Lindsey, noted. This maybe the reason i have been waiting for to get to the East Coast. On your next return to FL Fred, check out The Met in Sarasota! Its the best kept local secret!


    Lindsey left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 2:56 PM:

    Joey Dee, the thrift stores on Palm Beach are amazing! There are several notable “thrift” shops adjacent to Worth Avenue that are flooded with fantastic finds.
    Love his look and Palm Beach.


    F.E. Castleberry left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 2:35 PM:

    @Joey Dee—I had every intention of stopping into Fiore, a fine menswear consignment shop, but couldn’t get to it before closing.


    Joey Dee left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 2:32 PM:

    How are the thrift shops in Palm Beach ?


    F.E. Castleberry left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 2:22 PM:

    @Rake—Their purpose??? I use my pocket all the time when not wearing a jacket for business cards, pens, notes, whatever have you.  I strongly believe in function informing form…for me, the pocket is functional.


    Rake left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 2:15 PM:

    @FEC - I’m New England born and bred - I understand that historically OCBD’s have had pockets, just don’t see that they serve any purpose. FYI, the brooks OCBD pocket may easily be removed if one isn’t having their shirts made.


    F.E. Castleberry left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 2:08 PM:

    @Rake—Judging by your name, you would have no use for a pocket on a shirt; however, around these parts, most American sportswear shirting is equipped with a pocket—especially button down oxford cloth.


    chris W. left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 2:04 PM:

    I like everything about this look! I disagree that he looks “too boxy”. I think that the stronger the jawline, the better. His hair really brings his facial shape out and to that I give a thumbs up.


    Rake left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 1:31 PM:

    @Dex - why would a shirt have a pocket, or a logo?

    FWIW, my shirts are monogrammed inside, where the label would be. I don’t “get” visible monograms really, but prefer the ribcage if necessary - mine are there in case of a mixup with at dry cleaners…


    Matt G. left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 1:17 PM:

    Love the pocket square look, I wonder if he got it where I get all mine - http://www.dressedbycc.com/mens/pocket-squares-collection.html

    Should that woman be walking on the finely groomed landscape….?


    F.E. Castleberry left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 1:05 PM:

    @BJP—Try it once and see what you think.  I would certainly agree that on the cuff is too brazen.

    @DEX—These are all street looks from Palm Beach.  As I mentioned before, placing your monogram at the bottom of the ribcage works with a pocketed shirt as well.  I would argue that it would work with a logo as well since most logos are implemented in lieu of a pocket.  Just use the same color thread as the logo.


    BJP left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 12:58 PM:

    @FEC and @Rake, I will trust you gents on this one. Truthfully, it is unfamiliar to me… but I could see it being a very subtle addition.


    DEX left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 12:52 PM:

    That place looks amazing, are these all street looks from Palm Beach? Interested to hear more on sonhouse’s question on whether a ribcage monogram would work for a pocketed shirt as well. If the shirt has a logo should you forego the monogram if the shirt has a logo or just move it off the torso to the cuff or sleeve?


    F.E. Castleberry left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 12:51 PM:

    @sonhouse—Monogram at the rib cage has been around for some time.  The placement works if the shirt has a pocket as well.  It’s the only place I opt for a monogram on shirting.

    @BJP—You seem like a discreet gentleman.  The ribcage placement for a monogram is certainly the most discreet as it is imperceptible when wearing a jacket.


    MB left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 12:41 PM:

    Handkerchief code?


    sonhouse left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 12:22 PM:

    Monogram at the rib cage?  I’ve never seen this before.  It looks amazing.  I have some Johnston Murphy’s that are almost identical.  His are a bit more broken in.  Would this monogram placement work if the shirt had a pocket?  I suspect not


    BJP left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 12:03 PM:

    Solid. Monograms are tricky for me. Ocassionally on the breast, rarely on the cuff, and probably never for me on the rib cage. Overall, he looks great.


    Rake left a comment on 3/29/2011 at 12:02 PM:

    If one MUST have a monogram visible, the lower ribcage is the place to do it. Good look!


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